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#274050 - 23/03/10 10:17 AM
Re: Wolfes Beginners guide to scales
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Mr Shreddie
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#276698 - 30/05/10 03:06 PM
Re: Wolfes Beginners guide to scales
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SpitTheDog
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Registered: 30/05/10
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Loc: Burgess Hill, West Sussex, UK
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I use a spredsheet from The Spreadsheet Page Excel Downloads
Obviously you need MS Excel to view it, but you can view all the notes in any key/mode and even change the tuning. works better with older versions of excel (pre office 2007) but most functionality will work. Hope it helps!
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#286256 - 14/07/11 10:48 AM
Re: Wolfes Beginners guide to scales
[Re: Wolfe]
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Learn Blues
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Registered: 12/07/11
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Loc: Nr Manchester, UK
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Nice work... I spent years going thru all the scale positions, learning & memorising them, up and down the fretboard etc... Then I found that I had learnt them so well that all my fingers wanted to do was go to notes that were in the scale I was playing at the time.
I had inadvertantly learnt to discount all the other notes that weren't in the scale.
For example, the typical blues scale in A that many people (including me) learn is (A, C, D, D#, E, G). This completely ignores C# (III) and the F# (VI), which are essential imo.
So, I would say - yep - learn your scales for sure, but realise that they are just a guide - you don't have to stick to them, and if you do, you'll soon become bored and your playing wont develop.
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#286288 - 15/07/11 12:09 PM
Re: Wolfes Beginners guide to scales
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Wolfe
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Yeah i mentioned that scales are just a bunch of 'Safe' notes to go with a set of chords in a specific key in another thread and you can experiment going outside them and experimenting with less 'safe' notes. Maybe i should put a link to it here, just so people can have a look....
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#286406 - 19/07/11 03:44 AM
Re: Wolfes Beginners guide to scales
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jonnyh
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Registered: 19/07/11
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Wow! That is very comprehensive. I learnt all those shapes, but I'm not a real big fan of this approach. The 3 note/string approach is how I learnt it.
However, once you know your notes on the neck and your intervals you don't really need shapes anymore. Personally, I found that this was a greater help in unlocking my playing.
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#286408 - 19/07/11 04:07 AM
Re: Wolfes Beginners guide to scales
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jonnyh
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Registered: 19/07/11
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I just read about perfect/relative pitch comments here. There are lots of products out there that, often expensively, claim to develop this, which is definitely possible. I would recommend trying the method on http://www.perfectpitchlies.com but you don't need to spend any money!
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#287465 - 27/08/11 05:20 PM
Re: Wolfes Beginners guide to scales
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Johny D
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Registered: 01/05/11
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Wolfe.... you really have got me scratching my head!
Top work on the explanation. I may have to actually get all of this printed off though as I very regular use my iPhone to read the forum.. trying to break this down will really throw me off.
In the past week I have kind of developed a fascination of scales, paterns etc. But found it really confusing.
In lesson format I am still in the early stages and have been introduced with an E minor Pentatonic scale but after learning the opening riff to Metallica's Enter Sandman I have reason to believe that it derives from the 'Blues' Scale.. I guess this is where the obsession originated.
So, knowledge being power. I am trying to find as much information as my fragile little mind can handle right now.
Once I have had a chance to read through completely and it not being a silly hour in the night I will be back asking tons of questions (I will not be defeated on anything withing reasoning).
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#290279 - 03/12/11 11:19 AM
Re: Wolfes Beginners guide to scales
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DB100
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Registered: 26/11/11
Posts: 9
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Hi All,
I am really struggling with the theory side of things. I keep reading about seeing the pattern, but I just don't get it. The examples in the thread regarding the pattern, the first fret board image in the pattern section, the notes off the fret board. Are they played open? Sorry if this appears to be a really stupid question, I am new to this but I just am not seeing the pattern or the relationship to each other. Or maybe I see it but the brain isn't making the connection. Do I need to go back to an even more basic level?
Cheers
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