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#271363 - 02/02/10 12:30 PM Flanger for tone??
indykid0770 Offline
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Registered: 02/02/10
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Hi,
I use a fender strat through a vox valvetronix combi. I use the tweed amp model on it and go through boss me 50 multi effects processor and also have a chorus pedal that I hook up also. I have started using the flanger effect on the me 50 and leave it on at all times and i find it gives my sound a boost and a kinda warmer tone. I have come to this just by experimentation and wondered if this is a 'done thing?'or I am i inhibiting myself by doing this?

I play in a band with two guitarists and im looking to find a great tone. I am also considering buying a booster pedal to hook into my rig for solo's. What are peoples thoughts on booster pedals. We have 2 guitarists and we both play bits of lead so maybe an idea for him to buy one too?

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#271373 - 02/02/10 03:32 PM Re: Flanger for tone?? [Re: indykid0770]
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HI there, and welcome to the forum.

It's good to see someone searching for their own tone, rather than trying to replicate their favourite player. Really there's no rules, and sometimes not doing the 'done thing' could help you find 'your' sound.

As for using a flanger all the time, why not? I'd be interested in what sort of settings you're using, i.e. depth and speed. If it's quite a subtle effect then I can imaging it sounding fine. If it's a really insane deep and fast flanger effect then it could sound messy, and probably not ideal for every song your band plays.

Not really sure what my point is, so give it a go.

As for using a boost pedal for solos there's a recent thread about those here: Pedal for Solos

If it's a dual guitar set-up and you both take solos then I'd advise that you do need to have each guys solo volumes matching. everyone in the band needs to think about the overall sound of the band, and not just concentrate on your own part.

Hope this helps, I might just be waffling!

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#271396 - 03/02/10 03:26 AM Re: Flanger for tone?? [Re: Not the DJ]
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A word of warning about boosters- they'll work very differently with digital amps (valves or no valves, that's what you've got) than they will with a regular valve amp, and the results might not be good- overloading a valve sounds nice, but overloading a microchip doesn't. Rather than buying a booster pedal that was designed with valve amps in mind, you might be just as well to use the ME-50 to set up two patches the same, but one louder than the other (or just set your amp up to "solo volume" and use the volume pedal on the ME-50 to turn down to your rhythm sound.

The flanger idea is good- I find that using my flanger gives me a slightly louder, slightly warmer sound. Like Not the DJ says- if the flanger sound is too "wobbly" or too "whooshy" it'll probably be quite grating on the ears after a while, but if it's subtle it'll probably sound great, and will certainly sound distinct from the other guitarist's tone.

I don't think it's an entirely new idea- I've heard of bands putting tracks of effected guitar low in a mix alongside "straight" sounds to create texture, and Jimi Hendrix went a bit studio-flanging mad on his later stuff (Electric Ladyland and the posthumously released stuff that's currently available as "South Saturn Delta" and "First Rays of the New Rising Sun")- lots of awesome "chewy" sounding guitars.

Lots of the interesting guitar sounds you hear on Led Zeppelin albums were the result of phase cancellation between several microphones in the studio, which isn't a million miles away from what a flanger does.

Some flangers allow you to turn the sweep off (turn the speed to minimum) and use the "manual" control to set the amount of delay that's mixed in with your sound for "doubling" effects, which is what you're after.

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