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#271523 - 05/02/10 06:51 AM
Looking for Effects Unit with Phrase Trainer
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Tryinghard
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Registered: 17/08/09
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Loc: South Wales
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Hi All
Thanks for your previous advise regarding choice of an effects unit.
I now have a better idea of what I am looking for, which is a phrase trainer (is that the correct term ? or should it be looper ?) function – the ability to record sections of a song and repeatedly play it back at a slower speed without changing the pitch. I have a collection of teaching CDs from books and magazines which are still a little bit fast for me to effectively follow.
So far I have narrowed down the search to two units, perhaps you can provide some advise or suggest alternatives.
Digitech RP355 – about 160 UKP
Pros. Floor mounted unit operated with three foot switches and an expression peddle, hence I could stop/start pause the music sample without taking my hands off the guitar.
Cons. It records a maximum of 10 seconds, is this enough to be useful and slows it down by up to 25%.
Korg Pandora PX4D – about 100 UKP
Pros. It can record up to 30 seconds and slows down to 50%.
Cons. Light hand held/ table mounted/belt mounted unit operated with buttons and wheels, so would have to take my hands off the guitar to stop/start/pause etc.
Any advise, as I wrote above, the primary purpose is as a phrase trainer to help me learn more complex music, then a drum machine to learn timing and finally the effects for fun.
Hope you can help with advise.
Paul
Edited by Tryinghard (05/02/10 06:58 AM)
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#271527 - 05/02/10 10:15 AM
Re: Looking for Effects Unit with Phrase Trainer
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Tryinghard
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Thanks
I have just downloaded BestPractise , will give it a go to get some idea of what I want is useful.
At 50% speed the sound is a bit wobbly, but that might be my computer.
Paul
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#271567 - 06/02/10 08:05 AM
Re: Looking for Effects Unit with Phrase Trainer
[Re: Tryinghard]
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Tryinghard
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Many effects peddles appear to have a phrase loop capable of recording around 30 seconds or more of music, although no mention of altering the playback speed.
If I could use something like best practise to record a slowed down version of a lick for my mp3 player, I could then load the slowed down version onto a peddle with a phrase loop ?
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#271726 - 09/02/10 08:22 AM
Re: Looking for Effects Unit with Phrase Trainer
[Re: Tryinghard]
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Tryinghard
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Loc: South Wales
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Sorry
Might I append my above query, will any of the available effects units, e.g. a Boss ME-25, actually record from the Aux input (an mp3 player) or are they limited to recording input from the guitar.
Thanks
Paul
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