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#272255 - 18/02/10 10:58 AM
Re: Miming
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MacPhee84
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I understand the likes of Cole using a Mic in her performance as its more than likley used as a fasion accesory (I Imagine that her Mic was coverd in shiny stones).
Then again, regardless of wether its accepted that an artist mimes or not, it looks stupid and inconsistant if they don't have a Mic. Its like when I saw some act on TOTP and the guitarist didnt have a lead coming out of his strat, I laughed at how stupid he looked. If he had a lead in his guitar it would look far lees idiotic even though it would still be apparent that the song was being mimed!
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#272258 - 18/02/10 12:01 PM
Re: Miming
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MacPhee84
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Beth Ditto does a fairly energetic performance.... for a fat bird!
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#272263 - 18/02/10 03:52 PM
Re: Miming
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Danmeemusic a.k.a. BB
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I understand the likes of Cole using a Mic in her performance as its more than likley used as a fasion accesory (I Imagine that her Mic was coverd in shiny stones).
Then again, regardless of wether its accepted that an artist mimes or not, it looks stupid and inconsistant if they don't have a Mic. Its like when I saw some act on TOTP and the guitarist didnt have a lead coming out of his strat, I laughed at how stupid he looked. If he had a lead in his guitar it would look far lees idiotic even though it would still be apparent that the song was being mimed!
I think if you're in the trade, then anything wrong, no matter how minor will look stupid. I constantly notice either guitars that aren't plugged in, guitars that are plugged in to amps that are turned off, singers who's mics aren't plugged in, or radio mics that clearly aren't turned on. I only notice these things because I'm using them all the time, it would be wrong for me to not notice them. The average punter probably won't think anything is wrong though, which yes, is very sad, but why should they need to know absolutely everything. I've always thought it was hilarious when busted were on TOTP, looking like they were playing live, everything plugged in, but when one of them snapped a string nothing changed, it was like he didn't notice it at all. Now, I might not be giving him the credit he is due, but I've seen loads of clips when top guitarists like Brian May, Clapton, Page, et al, have snapped strings, and it's obvious. Even if you don't hear it snap, you notice what they do to avoid having to use that string.
The funniest thing I've noticed is that on most of the daytime show performances, or even prime-time shows when they are having a solo singer perform. You'll quite often notice that they might have some strings backing them, or maybe a band with a guitar, drums, (maybe) a bass, and possibly some horns. It is almost certain that there will be no attempt to mic up the band, or allow them to play live. I suppose the justification is that it takes a long time to get the sound right, and most of the time they are constrained in the time they can use., so no live sound equals no sound check, which equals less time. Most of the time the musicians are students from the Royal College of Music, and other Colleges that the TV companies can get people from. Easy gig, easy money, TV exposure, contacts with A, topline Artists, and B, TV company; Why would you say no? I certainly wouldn't.
How would you react if you were asked to mime for a 'live' show? would you do it, however reluctantly, or would you just see it as an easy gig?
I do think that singers should have to make it clear if they are miming when it is a huge show, the speculation is never good publicity, I'm sure if there were legitimate reasons for them not singing live that people would understand. After all, the artists are performers first and foremost, and seeing them perform is what people pay for.
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#272281 - 19/02/10 05:52 AM
Re: Miming
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MacPhee84
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I think dave has pretty much hit the nail on the head. Id rather see Cheryl Cole wriggle energeticly and mime then sing live! but then again id probably watch it with the sound on mute anyway!
The shows that seem to have the most miming and is probably more accepted by the audiance are the 'One Offs' like on a TV show such as the brits or a saturday morning show where they're only going to play 1 song, this would be time consuming to have all the wires set up and levels set correctly. But the least they could do is have some levels of consitancy, such as guitar leads etc etc.
But when you are paying to see a live performance such as Britney Spears (no i haven't.. before you ask!) and then a crazy fan jumps on stage and you clearly see her scream yet she is magicly still singing, I'd say that this is false advertising and immoral for fans to pay a stupid amount of money to see a CD play and some blonde twit dance like somthing from marwell zoo!
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#272444 - 22/02/10 07:08 AM
Re: Miming
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MacPhee84
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Well Said!
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