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#273319 - 12/03/10 12:23 PM Overdrive/distortion suggestions?
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Hi there.

Basically I'm currently after a set up that I can be totally happy with. I used to use my Fender ultimate chorus for clean and overdrive sounds, then I got a Line 6 Pod XT Live. I liked the pod but had mixed results when actually using it with an amp. So many options for output and the eq being on the amp and pod so I just feel like going to individual pedals for a simpler set up. I've also become really fussy about my distorted sound.

I really want a good overdriven sound from a pedal, that will do a nice tight smooth classic rock sound. Not too fizzy and harsh. I want something that will sound good rolled back (not lifeless) but also nice when high up. It would also be good if I can push it from not crazily distorted (kind of chunky chord work) to searing lead with a compressor. On my pod my compressor effect increases my gain a lot but I don't know if real compressor pedals do it since I've never owned one!

If not I need something which can add to to the sound for my lead breaks, another distortion I guess, but I still want a good tone.

I will probably be mostly playing through a solid state amp. I also know that people say "overdrive" is supposed to push a tube amp and distortion actually creates distortion but I find a lot of distortion pedals too harsh (like a Boss DS-1) maybe I just can't get the sound I want without a tube amp.

I know people's opinion's will vary a LOT but any suggestions for me? I do check out youtube vids, I will want to try the pedal out myself but I tend to buy on Ebay to save cash so I want to at least have an idea of what I want. I do quite like the MXR pedals, especially the custom shop overdrive (GT-OD)

By the way, currently I have a Boss DS-1 which I find quite average and I'd only use it if I had no other options, and a Boss Metal zone which I got cos it was so cheap that I figuered I could sell it for at least the same price. Dont want either as my main rock tone and can't see them being a solo boost either. I do have an original Marshall Bluesbreaker pedal which I love but it's probably a little low gain for some of the stuff unless I get a really good distortion for solos. Plus it's a big pedal and I need to fix the switch.

Cheers for any suggestions!



Edited by Towser83 (12/03/10 12:29 PM)
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#273354 - 12/03/10 04:36 PM Re: Overdrive/distortion suggestions? [Re: Towser83]
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Hey Towser.

You haven't stated your budget, but it sounds like you're after something with a bit of grunt, without sounding too artificial.

My instant thoughts go to exactly the pedals I use- The Crowther Hotcake and teh ProCo Rat. The Rat is a fuzz/distortion with a lot of character- certainly a lot more interesting to my ears than anything Boss make.

The Hotcake is like a tubescreamer, only able to give a cleaner boost if you turn the gain down, but also wind the gain and presence up for more of a Marshall-type feel and sound.

If you wanted both of those options in one pedal you might want to try a Fulltone OCD also- so good I'm currently in the process of building my own version!
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#273358 - 12/03/10 05:05 PM Re: Overdrive/distortion suggestions? [Re: stickyfiddle]
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Thanks for the reply, sorry I forgot about the budget. I guess I'm looking at up to about £120 per pedal but i can pay more.. I'm not in need of one right now, just looking to upgrade my sound when I can, so really I can stretch the budget as needed by waiting a bit longer. Don't want to pay more than I need though, it has to be value.

Thanks I will check out those suggestions. I would like to try out a Rat only I always thought they were a bit on the fuzzy side - I still want one, I want a big Muff too even though that's not the mian sound i'm after - but I hear a lot of good stuff about fulltone and RAT. I have heard a RAT and did like it so I will check it out again.


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#273363 - 13/03/10 01:43 AM Re: Overdrive/distortion suggestions? [Re: Towser83]
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Yeh, those would be my main 2- certainly the Rat sounds pretty good through any amps I've tried as well.

You might also want to look at the Blackstar HT Dual pedals- they have valves in them and are supposed to sound fantastic
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#273391 - 13/03/10 08:05 AM Re: Overdrive/distortion suggestions? [Re: stickyfiddle]
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I've just finished the 'OCD' build- so far it sounds great. A bit less of a fuzzy and more of a drive sound than the Rat. A great little pedal.
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#273393 - 13/03/10 08:36 AM Re: Overdrive/distortion suggestions? [Re: stickyfiddle]
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The Blackstar HT Dual is fantastic, at Sticky posted above it has a valve in it so you can really make a solid state amp sound so much better. I used mine for a while with a Marshall Valvestate (which certainly isn't a valve amp).

There's an excellent YouTube review here (goes on a bit but really shows what the pedal's capable of): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FNAAFcitU8

He's right in the vid that they're heavy (in weight), and the knobs are difficult to see on a dark stage, but they do sound great.

About £150 new, and in the last week two have sold on Ebay for around £100.

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#273420 - 13/03/10 03:57 PM Re: Overdrive/distortion suggestions? [Re: Not the DJ]
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cheers guys, i will check these out. I found some OCD vids on youtube and I loved it. Do you reckon pushing it with a compressor could squueze the extra gain out of it? I kind of like the idea of having a main pedal and just boosting into some more distortion rather than add another distortion pedal for solos.

I'll check out the blackstar too. The crowther is pretty good but I think I prefer the fulltone ocd judging by the vids I've seen.
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#273433 - 14/03/10 06:04 AM Re: Overdrive/distortion suggestions? [Re: Towser83]
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You get definitely get more gain from the OCD with a compressor- that's exactly how I was running it yesterday \:\)

From my 3 hours runnning with it I would say that the Hotcake is more suited to single coils (does a GREAT SRV sound with a strat), and the OCD works great with humbuckers. Haven't tried it with my strat or tele yet- that's a job for this afternoon after the F1 \:\)
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#273461 - 14/03/10 01:03 PM Re: Overdrive/distortion suggestions? [Re: stickyfiddle]
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sorry I forgot to mention that I play mostly a les paul deluxe and an SG Special, so at the moment it's humbuckers all the way.
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#273462 - 14/03/10 01:24 PM Re: Overdrive/distortion suggestions? [Re: Towser83]
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Then you owe it to yourself to try the OCD! \:\)
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