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#276673 - 29/05/10 04:37 PM
Home recording computer setup
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pragmatist
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Registered: 13/05/10
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Ok iv'e got an Imac running snow leopard with garageband already installed. If i use a line 6 guitar port will that interact with garage band so that i can use it's stomp boxes to record in garage band?
Really confused as i'm new to all of this so any help would be greatly accepted.
Edited by pragmatist (29/05/10 05:21 PM)
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#276780 - 01/06/10 09:20 AM
Re: Home recording computer setup
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pragmatist
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Registered: 13/05/10
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Hey thanks, It's a minefield out there.
I was interested in Roland Vstudio 20 but it does not support OS Mac so it's back to the drawing board. I have been looking at the pod UX2 which has some decent reviews. Just out of curiosity do you plug your guitar straight into your PC or is it best to go through a digital audio interface (i heard somewhere that plugging straight into a PC can damage it) and you should always go through an interface, In other words guitar into interface jack and then interface into PC. All i really want to do is record my own music or download a backing track into some recording software and play over the top. I'm not really interested in making the next no1 chart hit, Just some fun really.
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#276784 - 01/06/10 10:13 AM
Re: Home recording computer setup
[Re: pragmatist]
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Noise_Maker
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Afternoon,
Right, as far as I can understand the key issue with playing through computers historically (direct type connection) is latency. That is that when you hit a note or chord it takes a while for your computer of choice to process it through it's sound card (via driver software), and chuck it out of it's speakers.
The way around this is to get yourself a "proper" AI (Audio Interface). That is where devices like the POD UX2 and M-Audio FastTracks come in to play. Essentially they remove your computers sound card from the equation, take over sound management, and remove latency by using a low latency driver.
I personally picked up an M-Audio FastTrack Pro as it has 2 usable channels (guitar and Mic), it doesn't however have any fancy software for Amp Simulation such as the POD.
Up until recently I was using my MacBook but I've since moved to my PC for no other reason that it has a little more processing power (actually a lot more), My set-up is...
guitar and or Microphone plug in to my Fastrack Pro (AI)
My AI Plugs in to my PC via USB
I run Behringer MS40 monitors as my speakers from the AI (they don't touch the PC)
I run Reaper as my DAW (Digital Audio Workstation). This allows me to record and mix tracks and also run VST plugins (I can come back to them later).
I also run guitar Rig 4, that provides me with more amp/effect/speaker combinations than I could ever wish for.
I mentioned VSTs above. Virtual Studio Plugins work along side your DAW (this is part of the reason I went back to my PC thinking about it). Basicially they're .dll plugins which can be used within DAW software to provide additional sounds and effects. For example you may want a fuzz pedal effect; you'll probably find literally hundreds out there.
May main VST is EZDrummer which enables me to create drum tracks to play along to.
Some of the above VSTs maybe available for Mac but I don't think they're that well catered for. Also I'm not too sure how many are available from Garageband.
However, if you want to keep it simple (as I think you do) then whack your guitar through an AI in to your Mac and Bob is very much likely to be your uncle with Garageband. I'm sure there's lots of free downloads out there also.
As I've started I may as well finish! I've also found guitar Pro great. You can download/create tabs and export them as Midi files. These can in tern be imported in to your DAW enabling the simple creation of fairly complex tracks with other instruments (Bass, keyboards etc).
Hopefully this helps...if I've confused you even more drop me a note.
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#276785 - 01/06/10 10:45 AM
Re: Home recording computer setup
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pragmatist
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Registered: 13/05/10
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Superb, You have answered all my questions. At last i know why the Audio interface is incorporated into the equation. It now makes prefect sense. Think i may as well use garage band seeing as i have it. Now for that AI.
Many thanks for the advice, I notice on your profile that you like photography, If you need a favour returned i am more than competent in that subject.
Matt
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#276803 - 02/06/10 02:45 AM
Re: Home recording computer setup
[Re: pragmatist]
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english_bob
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^ I've been using the Pod Studio UX2 with my PC for a while now. It's a massive improvement over direct connetion to the PC in terms of latency (I can still hear a tiiiiny delay if I'm really listening, but nothing like the half-second or more of delay using my PC's sound card.), and the sounds available on POD Farm (amp and effects sim) are really good and really tweakable.
I managed to hook it up to record with Cubase without too much bother, so I imagine routing it in to Garageband to record would be easy too.
It also has various inputs and outputs that would allow you to use it for all your computer's audio applications if you had a suitable amplifier or powered speakers.
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#276825 - 02/06/10 08:36 AM
Re: Home recording computer setup
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pragmatist
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Registered: 13/05/10
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Thanks English Bob, I will probably use garage band but find it's not the clearest of things to use, A manual would help. I have ordered the Pod UX2
so that should be with me in a couple of days.
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#276847 - 03/06/10 03:04 AM
Re: Home recording computer setup
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english_bob
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UX2 is a great choice for a simple but comprehensive recording device. Hope you like it as much as I like mine.
It comes bundled with a couple of different recording/mixing packages which might be worth trying as an alternative to Garageband (although I was impressed with Garageband in the little bit of time I've spent with it).
A quick hunt on the internet may well turn up some user guidance for Garageband, either official or unofficial- I would imagine there are a LOT of users out there, given that it's bundled with new Macs...
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#276864 - 03/06/10 07:24 AM
Re: Home recording computer setup
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pragmatist
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Registered: 13/05/10
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Yes i look forward to it. Just a quick question, I managed to download a backing track into the garage band but when i choose track 2 to record a guitar over it i cannot hear the backing track anymore, Only the guitar i am playing, It's probably something something silly i am missing?
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#276865 - 03/06/10 08:36 AM
Re: Home recording computer setup
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Not the DJ
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Registered: 25/02/04
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Yes i look forward to it. Just a quick question, I managed to download a backing track into the garage band but when i choose track 2 to record a guitar over it i cannot hear the backing track anymore, Only the guitar i am playing, It's probably something something silly i am missing?
Can you post a screen shot? I'm sure it will be something simple. You can mute individual tracks, might be something like that.
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