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#279164 - 12/08/10 02:51 PM Guitar internals help?
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Well, to put it short, I'm completely reworking a guitar. I'm having a real problem finding replacement hardware because everthing comes with more than what I need.

I just need something simple that comes with 1 volume control, 1 tone control and a guitar input and that doesn't come attached to a plate. Preferably it would come with washers and nuts too and have wiring instructions. I can't find it anywhere

Also, if anyone could tell me what the name is of the things that connect to the tuning pegs, and which the strings wrap around and where I could buy six of them in chrome that would be great too.

Thanks, in advance.
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#279172 - 12/08/10 05:15 PM Re: Guitar internals help? [Re: Travi]
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 Originally Posted By: Travi
Well, to put it short...


Hi Travi, welcome to the forum. Actually, a longer description would have been better in this case. As it is, I'm not entirely sure what it is you're after. Are you looking for a fully wired rig, complete with pickups and controls, and, if so, how many pickups? If so, then I doubt you're going to find anything 'simple' with just the barest of conrols. These complete rigs are usually designed to fit specific guitar types, usually the more generic ones, like strats for example. Anything else you'll either have to buy the parts separately and wire up yourself, or commision some one to do one up for you. However, don't be daunted, as parts are readily available, and guitar wiring is very simple. One pickup+volume+tone would be a very straightforward wiring job. More than one pickup would additionally require a pickup selector, again a fairly simple wiring job. If you know exactly what you want, I'm sure I or someone else on this forum would be happy to provide you with an appropriate wiring diagram.

As to where to obtain parts, Axerus, Allparts or Axetec can all supply what you need.

The tuning whatsits are called machine heads or tuners. These come as individal modules, each complete with its own button, peg, etc. (and do not in fact attach to the pegs). These come in different sizes, so you need to know the size of the holes in your guitar's headstock to be sure that you get ones that will fit. They also come in different configurations (i.e. three on each side or 6 in a line) so again you should make sure to get the ones suitable for your guitar. You'll be able to get these from any of the mentioned suppliers. Good luck.

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#279174 - 13/08/10 12:57 AM Re: Guitar internals help? [Re: elkay]
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Elkay's spot on about the machienheads. They're easy to fit new ones, just make sure you get the right diameter for the holes in you headstock- they usually come in 8mm or 10mm varieties.

For wiring, it sounds like you need some individual volume and tone pots. if you can let us know what pickup(s) you have and whether you need switching as well we can point you in the right direction, as exactly what you need will depend on your pickups.
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#279188 - 13/08/10 05:07 AM Re: Guitar internals help? [Re: stickyfiddle]
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Thanks. I know what I need now :).

The machine heads come six in a line, and the hole has an 8.6mm diameter. The wiring should be simple. There's only 1 pickup, which I plan to buy separately, and all I need is 1 individual tone control, 1 individual volume control and one output jack(6.3mm).

It'd be really great if you could make me a wiring diagram, don't really have a clue how to do it. Also, I don't really know what to do with the black wire that's coming from under the bridge. I assume it's the ground, and it was connected to the tome control before.
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#279189 - 13/08/10 05:45 AM Re: Guitar internals help? [Re: Travi]
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I would suggest for the controls you should go for CTS log taper pots (sometimes called audio taper- it's same thing). 250k if it's a singlecoil pickup, 500K if it's a humbucker or P90.

You'll need a tone capacitor too, a 0.047uF is a good starting point, tho you may prefer a higher or lower value depending on how you like your tone controls to respond.

In terms of wiring the standard would be something like this: http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=1singlecoil_1vol_1tone

For the output jack the standard unit would be a Switchcraft jack- pretty cheap and sturdy enough for most applications

You should be able to get all that from Axetec or Axesrus.

Hope that makes sense!


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#279190 - 13/08/10 06:52 AM Re: Guitar internals help? [Re: Travi]
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 Originally Posted By: Travi
I don't really know what to do with the black wire that's coming from under the bridge. I assume it's the ground, and it was connected to the tome control before.


You're right, it's a ground wire. Solder this to the back of the volume pot.

Sticky has well covered what you need. Additionally, you might consider being a bit more adventurous. If you're using a humbucker for instance, you could use a push-pull pot instead of a standard volume pot to split the coils. If using a single coil pickup, it might be to your benefit to shield the guitar and minimise the hum you usually get with such pickups.

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#279191 - 13/08/10 07:04 AM Re: Guitar internals help? [Re: stickyfiddle]
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The normal combination for humbuckers is, 500k pots. For slim single coils, 250k is best. Pot types would usually be Log for volume and Lin for tone. CTS are about the best brand.
A capacitor for the tone control would be .o47uF for single coils and .022uF for humbuckers. Sprague Orange Drop caps are well-liked in place of the ultra-cheap ceramic ones.
Just about every pickup makers website has wiring diagrams but I find the Irongear ones the easiest to follow as they are nicely colour coded.
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