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#283070 - 07/02/11 04:19 PM
Re: New Song "Cinnamon Girl"
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Tinyghost
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Nice one Bob (Barry?).
I did really like it. Don't change anything on my account. Oh and you do have great technique! I will look forward to hearing the other track.
Hey Oldswanner, thanks for the debate.
We have different takes, I know a few people with simillar views to yourself, but I guess we are talking about whether something is "Art" (which is where I'm coming from) or music. It's about aesthetics probably, and i respect that you don't feel they come into (specifically) guitar playing...but they do in songwriting and singing.
It's the destinction you made that fascinated me...not heard that before
...and I respect your point of view and it has challenged me to question my own understanding.
Although i'm still of the opinion that guitar playing can be more than
"A strictly defined set of mechanical movements".
Peace.
Mike.
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#283085 - 08/02/11 06:59 AM
Re: New Song "Cinnamon Girl"
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OldSwanner
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Well, before comments were removed, there were many slating Yepes for playing too fast. I always liked it however ... certainly the fastest version I've seen.
There are also a few glitches in his version indicating that he's playing at his absolute max speed *in performance*, no mean feat. His version sounds urgent and "on the edge", because it is.
Xuefei Yang's rendition by contrast sounds beautifully relaxed as though she is playing well inside her max speed. But I adore her version also, for its sheer musicality.
The point I guess is that Xuefei Yang could play a fair bit faster if she chose, leaving her less mental space to focus on the musical (crescendo, rubato etc.) in favour of the impact of greater speed.
Yepes could equally slow down, thereby allowing himself more mental space to focus on what we'd call "musicality" or "presentation".
The prerequisite for both versions however is the "strictly defined set of mechanical movements", ie. to get the correct notes out in the correct rhythm. Only once this is "programmed in", can the player then make the sorts of choices outlined above.
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#283095 - 08/02/11 11:27 AM
Re: New Song "Cinnamon Girl"
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Richard - Richards Guitars
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With new found confidence after positive comments from last tune, I would be delighted if you would have a wee listen to my new ditty, and maybe comment (sets self up for fall) Cinnamon Girl Thank You. Bob (Barry)
Wow - Really great composition. Don't take this the wrong way and hopefully you will take it as a compliment....
Some of the arpegio pieces and speedier things reminded me of the old Vinnie Moore videos (which I worshipped when I was in my youth) and the overal feel has an 80s film sound track vibe.
It does have an 80s cheese vibe but done in a very very professional way - and would like to think this was deliberate on your behalf!
I loved it.
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#283097 - 08/02/11 02:19 PM
Re: New Song "Cinnamon Girl"
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english_bob
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Hehe, most welcome, I can never resist a good debate on a subject close to my heart, as English Bob will testify.
Arf.
Edited by english_bob (08/02/11 02:19 PM)
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#283101 - 08/02/11 05:02 PM
Re: New Song "Cinnamon Girl"
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Bob Gnarly
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Thanks for the comments Richard. All taken as compliments. I also used to love the first couple of Vinnie Moore videos (although I'm a long way from his fretboard mastery) and also love cheese, from any decade. 
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#283116 - 09/02/11 08:19 AM
Re: New Song "Cinnamon Girl"
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english_bob
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Not a huge instrumental guitar fan either, but I do like the way you use odd numbers of notes in your runs so that rhythmic accents end up falling in interesting places. Very funky. Do you play drums?
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#283131 - 09/02/11 11:20 PM
Re: New Song "Cinnamon Girl"
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Bob Gnarly
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Hi Bob, thanks for listening and for your comments. I've never played drums, although I've programmed lots of drum tracks over the years.
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