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#288567 - 07/10/11 03:04 AM
Re: Chord sequences.
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Megi
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Registered: 08/07/11
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Loc: Lincolnshire
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Great question Jocko, for me a lot of it is actually muscle memory - it's not enough to just know what the chord sequence is in terms of a sequence of chord names, you really need to have pre-programmed part of your brain to automatically perform the physical movements needed to play them. It's amazing in a way, but the brain can actually do this - you get to the point where even if you do temporarily forget the sequence of chord names, your fingers will still make the physical moves anyway.
Sorry for the jazz-type example, but this guy has a great approach which I'm sure must apply to other styles just as well:
Les Wise - Learning to play chord sequences
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#288582 - 07/10/11 10:29 PM
Re: Chord sequences.
[Re: Jocko]
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Lotus
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Registered: 08/08/11
Posts: 147
Loc: Stafford
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Not sure if it helps Jocko but at 53 and therefore a mere pup, I'm in a similar situation.
Like you I need to concentrate 100% otherwise I come unstuck.
Also like you I'm currently working on a couple of Eagle tracks.
Not sure there's any alternative too constant practice though
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#288589 - 08/10/11 11:42 AM
Re: Chord sequences.
[Re: Lotus]
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Jocko
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Registered: 06/07/11
Posts: 1023
Loc: Kirkcaldy, Fife
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Constant practise is what I have been doing but the example Graham suggested seems well worth a try.
Also like you I'm currently working on a couple of Eagle tracks.
What are you working on?
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#288592 - 08/10/11 12:27 PM
Re: Chord sequences.
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old but not out
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Registered: 15/07/11
Posts: 118
Loc: Wiltshire
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I will make a entry here, i to am on Eagles, Hotel california, and take it to the limit.
In some cases you would not know unless i told you.
Na i put my self down, there is some parts that sound correct.
With cord training, when i watch some thing on tele, play the cords then, at first i was for ever looking to correct my self, after a while it fell in to place.
My try, is remembering the notes on the frets. It will arrive when it comes.
Graham
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#288619 - 08/10/11 10:32 PM
Re: Chord sequences.
[Re: Jocko]
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Lotus
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Registered: 08/08/11
Posts: 147
Loc: Stafford
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Currently working on Take it Easy and recently Hotel California.
Perhaps the 3 of us should team up and do an Eagles session
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#288620 - 08/10/11 10:43 PM
Re: Chord sequences.
[Re: old but not out]
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DaveBass
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Registered: 30/10/02
Posts: 6462
Loc: The wilds of Surrey
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I've never had this problem because to me most chord progressions flow naturally, like a melody -- would you forget a melody once you knew it?
However, I was listening to some guitar-and-vocals background muzak (no idea what) in Homebase the other day, in which the chord progression was anything but natural; I think they must have chosen the chords at random. A bit like a sentence containing random words in an arbitrary order...
Chicken for glass as pink of beer paper while the. 
My recommendation would be to try and work out the logic of the chord progression; what is the underlying musical idea?
BTW I'm 61 myself. 
Dave
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#288621 - 08/10/11 10:45 PM
Re: Chord sequences.
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Billaricky
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Registered: 26/08/11
Posts: 36
Loc: somerset
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cant help with the memory stuff as im a bit younger than you  but the eagles music is cool, i can only look forward to the day im at that level to attempt it.
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#289489 - 08/11/11 01:07 PM
Re: Chord sequences.
[Re: Jocko]
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NooseLadder
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Registered: 04/11/11
Posts: 6
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Made a start today to the Les Wise method. Lets see if it works.
Just wondering how you're getting on with this method?
I might give it a try. For me as a beginner this could be beneficial. Holding one chord for a few measures before changing without being used to the change - I certainly get a bit of 'rigor mortis' in my left hand.
So changing on every beat may help.
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