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#289566 - 11/11/11 01:07 PM Combo amp upgrade?
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Hey guys,

Been a while since I've been on the forum, but I thought I'd run a question by you.

I currently have a Vox AD30VT which I use with a Fender Classic Player 60 Strat. I like the sound on the 2x12 setting, as I play a lot of clean tones for dub, funk, hip-hop etc.

I've just started practising regularly with my band after mainly being a studio based project. Frankly the AD30VT just doesn't cut it. Yes I know its only a 30 watt modelling amp so I wasn't expecting much, but even tone wise it doesn't seem to cut through. As a band we don't even play overly loud. For an idea of the type of music we play you can listen here: http://soundcloud.com/48acres

So, I'm thinking an upgrade may be in order. I was planning on buying a new guitar, but now I've started playing my Strat more, I'm pretty happy with the tone.

So my limit is around £200-300. Very unlikely to get a tube amp for that I guess, but what can you recommend? I like the Fender-like tones for what I play, and I have a delay pedal and wah which i would be using with the amp as well.

A couple of models which I've seen mentioned in various searches are the Peavey Bandit 112 and more recently the Fender Mustang III.

Any more advice would be appreciated.

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#289568 - 11/11/11 01:38 PM Re: Combo amp upgrade? [Re: mrmatt]
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Take a look at the Fender Frontman 212
Listening to your style of music I think it would fit well.


Edited by S&P (11/11/11 01:44 PM)
Edit Reason: got the model numbers the wrong way around

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#289570 - 11/11/11 01:48 PM Re: Combo amp upgrade? [Re: S&P]
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 Originally Posted By: S&P
Take a look at the Fender Frontman 212
Listening to your style of music I think it would fit well.


Thanks. Do you mean the 65R? I've seen mixed reviews about those. Do you own one yourself?

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#289571 - 11/11/11 02:08 PM Re: Combo amp upgrade? [Re: mrmatt]
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This is just my own experience, but I bought a Fender Mustang 3 several months ago, only to have to take it back to the shop and exchange for a Roland Cube 80XL. I had problems with what seems to have been labelled the "Fender Fizz" - this YouTube clip (not posted by me) illustrated the kind of thing I heard: Fender mustang 3 fizz This only manifested itself when I got the amp home, or at least I did not notice it at the shop. Other people seem happy with the Mustang 3 though, so maybe it's not there on all of them. A shame for me, because otherwise I thought it was a brilliant amp for the money. Not trying to have a go at Fender or anything, but maybe just something to be aware of.
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#289573 - 11/11/11 02:18 PM Re: Combo amp upgrade? [Re: Megi]
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 Originally Posted By: Megi
This is just my own experience, but I bought a Fender Mustang 3 several months ago, only to have to take it back to the shop and exchange for a Roland Cube 80XL. I had problems with what seems to have been labelled the "Fender Fizz" - this YouTube clip (not posted by me) illustrated the kind of thing I heard: Fender mustang 3 fizz This only manifested itself when I got the amp home, or at least I did not notice it at the shop. Other people seem happy with the Mustang 3 though, so maybe it's not there on all of them. A shame for me, because otherwise I thought it was a brilliant amp for the money. Not trying to have a go at Fender or anything, but maybe just something to be aware of.


Yeah I've seen a mixed opinion on the Mustang. The price and the features are pretty appealing. Not for the sound issues though.


Edited by mrmatt (11/11/11 02:19 PM)

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#289577 - 11/11/11 03:45 PM Re: Combo amp upgrade? [Re: mrmatt]
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Roland Cube/Peavey bandit?

Any thoughts?

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#289580 - 11/11/11 04:19 PM Re: Combo amp upgrade? [Re: mrmatt]
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I should have said - I think the Roland Cube 80XL has to be a contender, well worth trying one at least. I've had mine a few months now, so really should have explored it more, but it does have a lot of versatility IMO, and I find the clean channel (a model of a Roland jazz chorus amp) is actually pretty good for a lot of stuff - it does jazz pretty well (although I prefer my Polytone), and I even used it to get a pretty good Hank Marvin Shadows type tone on one occasion (don't ask! ). Simpler to operate than the Mustang, less built-in effects, and without the patch storage facility, but easy to use, plus seems well designed and made to me. The looper is quite a nice extra too, I find it quite handy for pracicing soloing over chord progressions. Overall a good gig-able amp I think, not just made for bedroom practicing, and definitely plenty of volume on tap.
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#289592 - 11/11/11 07:13 PM Re: Combo amp upgrade? [Re: Megi]
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My brother has a Laney Spider IV 75 watt and swears by it. He gigs with it most weeks. Maybe worth a listen to and a bit of research on!
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#289594 - 11/11/11 07:44 PM Re: Combo amp upgrade? [Re: Jocko]
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For gigging the Roland has to be top of the list. They are built like tanks. Try one against the Spider with your own guitar and see what suits best. With a Strat I'd consider a used valve amp if you can find one in your price range.
There's even a few new ones like this http://www.thomann.de/ie/bugera_6260212.htm
though you may struggle with Fender-esqe cleans, you wouldn't be short of power.

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#289595 - 11/11/11 07:51 PM Re: Combo amp upgrade? [Re: mrmatt]
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 Originally Posted By: mrmatt
 Originally Posted By: S&P
Take a look at the Fender Frontman 212
Listening to your style of music I think it would fit well.


Thanks. Do you mean the 65R? I've seen mixed reviews about those. Do you own one yourself?

No the 212R is a 100watt combo. A guitarist I occasional play with, uses one with a strat and it
sounds very nice.

The Roland Cube as suggested is a great amp too.

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