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#290651 - 15/12/11 04:45 PM Buying a guitar from USA good idea or bad????
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Being looking at buying a guitar from america any one bought one or got any advice if its a good idea or bad
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#290655 - 15/12/11 05:49 PM Re: Buying a guitar from USA good idea or bad???? [Re: Haining83]
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If the guitar is £150 or more you will be liable for paying the 20% VAT for importing it into the EU, plus customs and charges.

Returning it if there is a problem could be troublesome.

However, if this is a rare, boutique or custom made guitar that you could not otherwise buy, there are times in life when greater risk can bring greater reward.

If this is about what acoustic to buy from £200 to £350, think about how many quality Guitars in that price range are available in the UK.

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#290657 - 15/12/11 08:06 PM Re: Buying a guitar from USA good idea or bad???? [Re: Lester]
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thanks lester being raking my brain last two days on what to buy cant make my mind up managed to up my budget to £400 was hoping for a taylor hard tho with tht budget any suggestions
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#290659 - 15/12/11 09:34 PM Re: Buying a guitar from USA good idea or bad???? [Re: Haining83]
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It's your money and will be your guitar, so you must make the final decision.

For your budget I doubt that you could do much better than talk with Richard, the chap that runs this forum and Richards Guitars. Look at the 12 Cort guitars that are in your price range.

My neice and a friend's son both have nice Tanglewood Guitars, both costing just over £200. There will be other makes that can be recommended.

With a £400 budget you will only have the Taylor baby guitars to choose between, the ones not made at the California factory. I believe Bob Taylor's reputation was built by building top end acoustics. Don't assume that the cheapest Taylors will necessarily play better or sound better than other brands of similar prices.

I play a Takamine. By all means, try a Takamine too.

You will often hear the sensible advice to go and play Guitars. Because they are made from wood, each one is individual and so you need to find the one that you love the feel and sound of.

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#290662 - 15/12/11 09:55 PM Re: Buying a guitar from USA good idea or bad???? [Re: Lester]
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hi haining, I wouldn't if I were you. As lester mentions there are lot of really good Guitars out there in the £400 market why waste your time with a US import. You can't try it and acoustics vary so greatly, from individual guitar because they are so reliant on the grain, unlike electrics (IMHO). You might be able to find a secondhand Faith which are really good, Tanglewood always do well, and Richard has lots of info on Cort who I believe to be right up there too. In my experience of the Baby Taylor, its good but not as good as the budget makes for the price. Godin also have a bunch of guitar brands which compete well - Art & lutherie, Simon and Patrick and Seagull all come from the Godin stable, and they score highly and come in at around those prices.

Good luck and let us know how you get on.
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#290670 - 16/12/11 07:23 AM Re: Buying a guitar from USA good idea or bad???? [Re: Christeefur]
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Lester talks about paying VAT on goods over £150. I bought conductive paint from the States and had to pay VAT plus a charge for charging me VAT. A £20 tin of paint cost me £35 !!!
A £400 guitar will cost you £80 VAT plus charges.
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#290673 - 16/12/11 09:24 AM Re: Buying a guitar from USA good idea or bad???? [Re: Jocko]
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The 'free' limit (if you like), was a massive £18. But since this November, and after a lot of petitioning re; 'It's been £18 for ages and it's silly low', they said OK, we'll make it £15 - have a nice day, we're here to serve, etc, etc, etc.

And, not to be left out your caring-sharing Post Office want an additional £8 for themselves for doing.......err, their job?

HMR&C
£0.01 to £15 ■ No customs duty ■ No Import VAT

£15.01 to £135 ■ No customs duty ■ Import VAT due

£135.01 & over ■ Customs duty due, but waived if amount calculated due is less than £9 ■ Import VAT due

http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPorta...000014#P28_2966

Plus:
"Any package assessed by HM Revenue and customs as being liable for customs charges [duty and/or VAT] will also incur a Royal Mail handling fee of £8."

http://www.royalmail.com/delivery/mail-advice/customs-information

Rought guide calc (maybe?), a £260 guitar + whatever the seller charges to send to UK (insured), say £75 + about £60/£66 when it gets here. So a £260 guitar in the US ends up in your hands here for something like £400.


Edited by Surfsilver (16/12/11 09:25 AM)
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#290674 - 16/12/11 09:50 AM Re: Buying a guitar from USA good idea or bad???? [Re: Surfsilver]
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Go here to work out full import costs. VAT & Duty are paid on price INCLUDING shipping, so at the lower end of the market there's pretty much never any saving to be had.

http://www.dutycalculator.com/

In any case, I wouldn't even consider buying an acoustic unseen (especially from abroad) unless it's something you literally can't get another way.

Go to a good shop and try lots. Anything you can afford, and anything you *almost* can- that way you'll find something you really like, and if it's just over budget, will be within reach after a little more saving.

And watch for used bargains- January is really good for cheap Guitars as everyone's paying for Christmas. I got a Taylor 214 for £350 a couple of years ago- it can be done!
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#290675 - 16/12/11 10:15 AM Re: Buying a guitar from USA good idea or bad???? [Re: stickyfiddle]
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That’s a very useful link sticky, came out within a few squid of my fingers and toes calc. However, they don’t seem to mention the G’PO rip? True, maybe £8 isn’t your biggest concern if spending £400-£500, but you get the same rip if you’ve only spent £20 – i.e. you pay the G’PO more than the VATman. That’s the rip.
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#290676 - 16/12/11 10:23 AM Re: Buying a guitar from USA good idea or bad???? [Re: Surfsilver]
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 Originally Posted By: Surfsilver
G’PO

That made me laugh. It was 30 years ago that the GPO was split and mail is now handled by Royal Mail. Keep up, Surfsilver!

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